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From: "hewmac" <hewmac@xxxx.com.au>
To: <threetowners@iList.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 |
Can anyone answer these questions. Were there any air raid shelters in the
three towns? Where any bombs dropped in the locality and where were the
defence gunners for the ICI Explosives factory positioned.
Hugh McCallum
in Melbourne
From: "Martin Kelly" <Martin@xxxx.uk>
To: <threetowners@iList.net>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999
I remember a story when I was at school (in the 70's) of two boys who
discovered a canister which they rolled from the bottom end of Stevenston up
to the top end only to discover that it was in actual fact an unexploded
WWII bomb!
I don't know how true that story is but Stevenston was bombed by bombers
from Norway who used the railway lines in Scotland as navigation.
I have consulted with my father (b. 1930) who remembers the night that the
factory was bombed. The night was the same night as the Clydebank blitz
(13th and 14th March 1941) and apparently the sky was lit up by the
incendiaries (there were a few explosive bombs) but little damage was done
to the area.
That night, around 11 o'clock, a well known voice came over the radio (or
wireless):
"Germany calling, Germany calling,
Good evening Clydebank,......
:
Good evening Ardeer.
We were not trying to destroy you tonight, we know you are well protected by
sand, we know where Townhead Street is, we know where Hayocks Road is
(Hayocks Road was being built at that time), our bombers were just unloading
their bombs in order to preserve their fuel to return home."
This is the version of events according to Lord Haw-Haw - Ardeer may have
been a secondary target or it may just have been a convenient site on which
to unload unused bombs. The undistputable fact is that Stevenston was bombed
during the war - but only once.
The bombing of Clydebank and Ardeer was reported the next day in the press
but due to wartime censorship, the effect of the Clydebank blitz was played
down (there was not much to report about Ardeer).
My dad's recollections of anti-aircraft positions in the town suggest that
there was a battery at Hawkhill Farm to the north of Stevenston and at the
water works. Home Guard units were also stationed in the Ardeer factory.
From: <Argyllxx@xxxx.com>
To: <Threetowners@iList.net>
Sent: Monday, November
29, 1999
Hi. Hugh. The only shelter I can remember was the surface one up at Anderson
Drive and New England Road, in the wee park there, How ever no one could use
it as it was used as a toilet away from home. In the summer, when the siren
sounded, we all went further up Dalry Road into the fields, and lay at the
bottom of the hedges. In winter we just stayed at home. The only guns I ever
saw were the two four inch guns at the farthest out part of Ardrossan
Harbour, pointing out to the firth of Clyde. The guns crews (sailors) lived
in a two story building next to the guns. When I worked at the shipyard, on
night shift, part of my job was keeping the dry dock pumped dry, and I used
to walk down there and buy my supply of fags from the navy chaps. Those were
the days, hope they never return. Cheerio for now.
Jimmy Laughlan.
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 3:46 AM
Okay sorry about that Hugh, I just remembered another one, before we moved
from Arthur St. to our new house in New England Road, I remember that there
a big steel tank full of water in the middle of Arthur St. Now that I think
of it, I'm surprised none of us youngsters were drowned, but we all
survived, and here we all are, scattered all over the globe. Cheerio for
now.
Jimmy Laughlan.
From: "Jean" <sparralegs@xxxx.uk>
To: <Threetowners@iList.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November
30, 1999
Hi
The only air raid shelter that I heard of was the one at Montfode where the
shell mex had under ground fuel tanks the reason I know this was that Harry
had to go up there every day to dip the tanks. According to my dad the
planes involved were Dornier 17's and the aircraft cannon shells landed on
the roofs of the buildings in Saltcoats I was under the table in my crib.
They bombed ICI without any great effect.He doesn't remember where the A.A.
emplacements were. Also that Ex-Provost Ford's (of Stevenston) brother was
awarded the George Cross for bravery at that time.
Cheers Jean
From: "sally o" <salgeo@xxxx.com.au>
To: <Threetowners@iList.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999
Hi Jimmy, Where was Arthur St?. I lived up the Dalry Rd in Saltcoats. I know
where New England and Anderson Rd is but not where Arthur St is.Did you know
the Strachans from Anderson Dr.?. They lived in the corner house next to the
park.
Sally O Aus.
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 2:31 PM
Hi Jimmy, I can picture some of what you were describing. You must have a
good memory. I have that Kraft disease.(can't remember a flippin thing). Did
you know a Jimmy Jamieson?.My maiden name is Jamieson. My brothers are
fairly well known. I was a wee bit quieter. I also had a cousin in Anderson
Drive called Clark Webb. Ring any bells?. Cheers Sally O xx
From: "Hugh McCallum." <hewmac@xxxx.au>
To: <Threetowners@iList.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999
Thanks folks enjoyed the input on this subject. Been away celebrating St.
Andrews day at the 'Drunken Duck' here in Melbourne. After a day of 30
degrees heat chilled McEwans went down well. In attendance three Ardrossan
lads and our wives, one from each of the three towns. Thanks for the B&B
George and Sally O.
Must have been after WW2 ended but the North Shore at Ardrossan was littered
with hundreds of incendiary bomb casings which had been washed ashore. They
were about 9 inches long and were hexagonal ended; they had a white mushie
substance inside the casing. The casings were badly rusted and were
certainly a danger to the barefooted. This was in the vicinity of the
Shell-Mex oil refinery. My wife a native of Stevenston recalls the same
casings there.
Hugh McCallum
in Melbourne
From: <Mairifrew@xxxxxx>
To: <Threetowners@iList.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999
Hi, My grandparents had Gordon Fish shop in Countess Street in Saltcoats
which they started in 1916, when my parents took it over in the 50's they
decided to knock down the Air Raid Shelter which was in the backyard. It was
used by the shops and the houses above the shops. It was a quick decision
which took a lot longer than anticipated to carry out. It took 2 weeks with
pneumatic drills and a great deal of work, sweat and almost tears before it
was cleared away. I am not old enough (b.1943) to remember the war only the
things like coupons which were there long after the war finished. I have
just subscribed to this list and I am enjoying it very much.
Thank you,
Mairi Frew
From: "Hugh
McCallum." <hewmac@xxxx.au>
To: <Threetowners@iList.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999
Hi Mairi,
Nice to hear from you. Would I be right in saying the Gordon fish shop was
more or less opposite the Countess picture theatre? As a fish and chip lover
I remember it well. My Morrison relatives lived in Nineyard Street opposite
the Mission Coast Home and I imagine their property would have been back to
back with the Gordon fish shop. Perhaps they shared that same air-raid
shelter.
Hugh McCallum
in Melbourne
From: <Mairifrew@xxxxxx>
To: <Threetowners@iList.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999
Hi Hugh,
Yes Gordons was opposite the Countess Picture House, it was a Fishmongers
and
poulterers though, you had to make your own fish and chips from our shop. We
were two doors up from a "proper fish and chip shop" and next to Fleming
fruit shop. We used to deliver fish round to the Mission Coast Home. One of
the other places we delivered to was the Miners Home in Canal Street, which
is now Seabank Home for the elderly.
Mairi
From: "Betty Woodland" <bettywood@xxxx.au>
To: <Threetowners@iList.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999
I can remember playing in bomb shelters in backyards. One was at the top of
Wellpark Road. I remember the Gordon fishmongers well, and the gutting and
scaling on the marble slabs with running water that went on, I lived at The
Braes. Wee Joe's is the fish and chip shop that others are talking about I
remember well the fish and chicken suppers. John my husband and I
occasionally sat in for a chicken supper after the pictures at the Countess.
Betty Woodland South Australia.
From: "Hugh McCallum." <hewmac@xxxx.com.au>
To: <Threetowners@iList.net>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999
There was a shelter in Harvey's Park which was to the West of the Dalry Road
Hill just before you cross over the Largs railway line at Ardrossan. Also
recall one at the Shipyard it was a large sunken pipe and was whitewashed
inside. Candle smoke graffiti kept us kids amused. My wife reckons there
were some shelters down near the slip at Stevenston too.
Hugh McCallum
in Melbourne
From: "TLHanlon" <tommy_h_mentor@xxxx.net>
To: <Threetowners@iList.net>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999
Hugh,
I too remember the shelters down at the slip many a time we should to play
there .I also have vague memories of the war and where I stayed in Moorpark
West our shelter was in a press under the stairs. The stairs being made of
stone gave us good protection.
Regards
From: <Argyll45@xxxx>
To: <Threetowners@iList.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999
Yes, Hugh. Now that you mention it, there were bomb shelters down at the
slip in Stevenston, big Bill Curlett and I used that slip to launch his
boat, when we went fishing for Haddie, almost every night in the summer,
even coming off the three to eleven shift at Ardeer. In the winter, the boat
was kept in one of the shelters, but we never knew they were shelters at the
time, (about 1950 till 1954), when I left for the states. Lots of memories
coming back, I wonder if my old pal Bill Curlett, and his Wife Mary are
still
around. Haven't heard of them since 1954. Anyone in Stevenston know them?
Cheerio for now. Jimmy Laughlan.
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