Boyds from Ardrossan

[Lynne]

Oh wow, Ellen, many thanks for this. I'm being educated...not before time. ) I shall have to find that reference again, as it now seems to me to be a lot more pertinent than it was when I first read it. Lynne.

[sweet caroline]

John Boyd in Ardrossan-Miln and Jean Caldwell in Lochwinnoch married at Ardrossan 25.10.1735.
I would be surprised if this is not Ann Boyd's brother.Don't see where it say's a second marriage for Ann Boyd.Well IGI has 3 Jane Caldwells and 2 Janet Caldwell 1706-1710 think the early 1 dies as same father Robert for first 2 Jane's.So take it John Boyd was c 1702.

Ellen

[sweet caroline]

Lynne,Sorry it's Meigle that is outside Largs.Could it just be the old spelling?I'm wondering if Seamill came within Ardrossan boundary ,or was it owned my Ardrossan . A grain Mill that sat just after old Duck Pond.Husband's Gran from Glasgow had a caravan other side of duck pond from old mill c 1948.

Ellen

[Lynne]

Ellen, thank you....this is so helpful. I've been taking a closer look at the marriage between Hugh Morris & Ann Boyd, and it doesn't seem to me that the marriage actually took place, because it's actually a record of the banns being read, and all but two of the entries on the page have "married" entered after the original entry for the banns. Ann's is one of these. And I can't find a marriage between Ann & Hugh anywhere else within the right time-frame, nor any children born to them. I noticed the following on the web. I'm not sure, Ellen, but I think that this is probably the same as "Mill Farm" and my "Mill of Ardrossan"? Oh, and I'm pretty sure that I saw the names "Meikle" and "Meigle" in one article about the same place, Ellen...don't you just love phonetic spelling in the old records?!! ) Lynne.

Miln Farm of Ardrossan Extent A-110. Valuation £64 Scots. Let to Andrew Clark for 20 years from Mart. 1795. Rent £110-5/-

[Lynne]

Sorry, Ellen...just re-read this...Ann's banns record doesn't have "married" entered afterwards. Lynne

[sweet caroline]

Lynne Wrote,
Miln Farm of Ardrossan Extent A-110. Valuation £64 Scots. Let to Andrew Clark for 20 years from Mart. 1795. Rent £110-5/-
Well Lynne i think that spelling of Mill/Miln Farm settles it,and John's marriage does not give his occupation.Think he inherited from his Father .I never found any children for Hugh Morris in Ardrossan either.As it stated 2nd.marriage for William Finnie ,it would have mentioned the same for Ann Boyd.Kilmarnock was quite particular with records.

Ellen

[Lynne]

Thank you, Ellen. I am certainly going to concentrate on this area. I guess finding a burial would be the only way of determining her approcimate birth date? This 2nd marriage for Ann was only mentioned in Archibald's birth record, Ellen...I'm wondering now, if it was a mistake at the time, although betrothals at that time were as binding as an actual marriage, weren't they? Perhaps too, if I can find a burial for Hugh Morris, it will help to further narrow down the field.

Totally off topic, Ellen, I found a picture of the grave of Isabella McEwen the other day, and although she was married to Rev. John McEwen, she appears to have been buried with her mother and other female relatives. I shall have to check this out, of course, but it seemed odd to me. I do know that there is a Finnie tomb somewhere around Trafalgar Square. It seems so strange to think of all that traffic hurtling by their tomb. but of course, way back then there would have been the odd brewer's cart hurtling by, I guess, and not much else. Now, back to Ann. Lynne.

[sweet caroline]

Lynne,
Sounds like you have an interesting Family Tree.Only found 2 relevent deaths/burials.Both children of William Finnie and Ann Boyd.Take it that you already have them.

Ellen

[Lynne]

Ellen, it is interesting, but at times frustrating to the nth degree!! I have the wills of Archibald and John, but aren't sure if these are the deaths you've found, Ellen? I've been collaborating with a lot of cousins on Geni, re: building a huge "world tree". I think that over 45 million profiles on there now are connected to me. But while the wider branches of the family are pretty well taken care of, Ellen, it's my closer relatives/branches who give me the biggest headaches.

My 4th great-grandfather was a sadler in Piccadilly (I shall never understand why he left Scotland!) c.1796. He exported spring saddles to Portugal, where the family company had business enterprises. They also operated businesses in Brazil, India & China, and acted as a forwarding house for Rothschild's, i.e. the Finnies settled Rothchild's accounts, then claimed the money back from Rothschild's. They also sent back letters to Nathan Rothschild, concerning the political state of Portugal...this was in the time of Joao VI of Portugal. This is what I find fascinating, Ellen...the history behind them, and what was happening in their parts of the world during their lifetimes. My 4th great-grandfather owned and leased a lot of land in London. The leasehold land was all owned by the Duke of Portland. I am guessing that this was because of the coal mines. How did the children of a humble blacksmith/hammerman rise like this, in industry? This question really bugs me, Ellen. I can only assume that Ann might have brought a decent dowry with her (the Finnies took the bestowing of dowries pretty seriously, although they also took great pains in their Wills, to ensure the continuing financial independence of their daughters, safeguarding these funds from their husbands!), or that William's parents might have been "connected".

Isabella McEwen was the mother of Robert Finnie McEwen, Ellen. I find this family to be immensely fascinating.

I've probably bored you witless with all this by now, Ellen, but thought that you might like to have a bit of background information on the people you have been so kindly helping me with? Lynne

[sweet caroline]

Lynne ,It doesn't bore me.I love to hear of the past lives ,Find it fascinating.Suppose that's why we have this hobby.My Tree is on Genes Re.There is a tree on Ancestry with the Finnies on it ,Think it has an American side if i remember right.Will PM you details of deaths.

Ellen

[Lynne]

Ellen, I think that the Finnie tree on there is incorrect. They have a marriage and a zillion descendants for one of Wm & Mary Wilson's dead daughter!! Thank you for your message, by the way...I've sent a reply, but am not at all sure that I did it correctly. My single, lonely little braincell seems to be on strike!! So far on Geni, I have tons of Scandinavian cousins, Ellen (who I have labelled "the Vikings"), Irish (The Guinness family mainly), heaps of Americans, Hungarian....and of course the Scots!! There are heaps of other nationalities in the tree too, Ellen...when the Lord said go forth and multiply, the Finnies & Boyds took it very seriously!!

[Penny Tray]

Lynne,

I'm not sure if the Mill Farm is still of interest to you but attached is a photo of the farm building, now, I understand, divided into separate private accommodations.