Poll - Does Scotland really want to go it alone?

[VivAyrshire]

Right. I am now having someone (on another forum) tell me you would really need to know about British IP addresses /protocol (whilst abroad, or if the BBC is taken away from us), to continue to receive BBC transmissions?

Seems FM as we know it would be gone?!?

[morag]

I'd guess this is scaremongering at best. Life will most likely be unchanged.

[5eulbdog7]

Well done morag a bit more autonomy but only marginal changes ,the capitalist system works against small economies.Countries with low wages are where the investment goes.Just look at the clothes your wearing and i bet there made in a low wage economy.Whisky and oil will be our saviour don't think so.Look at the highland estates that are owned by Arabs and other foreigners.We were a nation that had thriving heavy industries with great skills but lost our competitiveness in the global market.Vote for independence if you want but expect diappointments

[VivAyrshire]

Another thing is.... Would we really be ALONE. We would surely have to develop better relations with the e.u. As well?

[morag]

My thought is I'd rather perish as Scottish than British. That's just me though..and here ah am' ah hundred jillion miles away..Scottish through and through though.

[Richard]

Me too Morag,
I would rather die standing, than live on my knees.

[morag]

Me too Morag,
I would rather die standing, than live on my knees.

absolutely!

[Richard]

Viv,
We will continue to use the pound as we have always done, to begin with anyway, but NOBODY knows
what the distant future holds, whether In Independence or still stuck to Westminster.
We will continue to receive ALL the TV & Radio stations that we receive at present, but that could
change at some point in the future, who knows ? It could also change at ANY time under the union ?
One thing is GUARANTEED though, the TV & Radio signals will NOT automatically stop at the border,
on Scottish Independence Day, and await passport clearance. As Morag suggested, It's ALL scaremongering.
As for ANYTHING to do with the military ? Again, NOBODY knows and NOBODY is ever likely to know
ANYTHING other than the bare minimum. It's the very nature of the beast, NO army reveals It's true hand.
But what we can assume is the main options that are being banded around and they are:
1: We could end up as part of a "Nordic" alliance: Perfectly possible AND why not ?
2: We could "stand alone": Again, why not AND perfectly possible. Lots of countries do it ?
3: We could still be a part of NATO ? Yes, very true, but this will come down to "acceptance" from NATO
and whatever government we vote for AFTER Independence. (Which may/may not be the SNP ?).
Scotland currently contributes over £3 BILLION per year, to the Westminster military budget.
It has been very well established that Scotland could have herself a fully kitted-out and effective military
for somewhere in the region of, just under £2 Billion. Not bad, eh. Our own military AND a MASSIVE saving
that will do very nicely spent elsewhere, ie; on jobs, education, tourism, investment, etc, etc, etc.
Listening to "debates" on Radio, especially BBC Radio, is dangerous because the panel is usually loaded
with people of a unionist persuasion AND the questions & audiences are usually loaded in favour of the union.
There is a growing concern recently, with regards to the BBC and their political bias, questions are being asked.
Don't fall for all the scaremongering stories from unionists, especially these ones:
1: We wouldn't get any military contracts from Westminster so we would lose jobs: UTTER NONSENSE,
we would have our own military, that in its self would CREATE jobs to build AND maintain. PLUS, unionists
conveniently forget to mention that Westminster already gives most of our big contracts out to foreign
countries such as South Korea, a potential future enemy. Unionist's also fail to mention all the military bases
in Scotland, that they have moved to England. Destroying Scottish communities.
2: NOBODY is going to bomb our airport runways, the guy who said that is now safely back in his padded cell.
And NOBODY is going to attack us for our oil or even our potatoes for that matter. If that ever happened then
do you honestly think that everyone else would sit back and watch ? Of course they wouldn't because they
would be next, just as we would NEVER sit back and watch England, Wales OR Ireland being attacked.
It would NOT be in anybodies interests to do so. Which brings me to my final point.
This is only my opinion but It's not one that we see being banded about:
DON'T be surprised, If after Independence, we still have a shared "British" military ?????
It makes perfectly good sense AND could be very workable, not to mention convenient.
BUT, It would take a lot of heated negotiations between the politicians of all countries, behind closed doors.
And those Scottish politicians may not, necessarily, be from the SNP ?????

[VivAyrshire]

Fascinating stuff !! I have taken this round to my other forum (where I am currently dealing with a complete egghead who doesn't think Scotland is great, or has ANY interest in Scottish history). **

** And... comes from EDINBURGH !! It's all too much !!

[Richard]

The BBC, at It's disgusting best.
But be aware, there will be lots more of this to come, and worse, over the next 2 years.
http://www.newsnetscotland.com/index.ph ... l-coverage

[VivAyrshire]

When the other countries seperated from the ussr, did they not become really poor?

[Richard]

WiT ?
I honestly don't see where you're going with this, Viv ?

You can't compare that situation to ours.
We, (the "UK"), are not a communist dictatorship.
But to try and answer your question, I would say: Emmmm, Nope, Just ask the Ukraine.
(maybe others have lost certain benefits, but they've gained more freedom and their identities back).
I don't honestly follow their politics, at all. Maybe someone else can give you a better answer ?
Perhaps someone who actually comes from over there ?